[15:48] *** Bjor (java@63.140.224.lp653=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:49] <@Chieftess> Hi Barry [15:49] <@Chieftess> I'm debugging chanserv. ;) [15:49] soon we will loose our Vs [15:49] lol [15:49] What's up, Chieftess? [15:49] and be silencend [15:49] <@Chieftess> Figured out a way for people to chat who aren't registered [15:49] <@Chieftess> The 'rented mule' is doing fine. [15:49] ct- id add a link to the new channel for those who are just enetering [15:49] hehe [15:49] <@Chieftess> I wonder how the other rented mules are [15:50] I'm sure Warpstorm and Isak will be here to let you know in person [15:50] *** Guest31056 (java@63.140.224.qt889=) 4[left] #civfanatics. [15:50] *** Guest33476 (java@63.140.224.fA096=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:50] *** Guest33476 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [15:51] *** Guest18294 (java@63.140.224.Fz182=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:51] *** Guest18294 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [15:51] *** Guest17820 (java@63.140.224.Fz182=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:51] *** Guest17820 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [15:51] and the floodgates let loose [15:51] *** Guest16051 (java@63.140.224.Fz182=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:51] :s [15:51] *** Guest16051 has 4[morphed] into "rename" [15:51] *** Guest26278 (java@=xY4Zlld657.tnt76.chi5.da.uu.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:51] *** rename has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [15:52] this is getting annoying... [15:52] *** Guest76886 has 4[morphed] into "Do" [15:52] *** Guest83442 (java@63.140.224.rx169=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:52] *** Do has 4[morphed] into "Guest9157" [15:52] *** Guest83442 has 4[morphed] into "FXS_Jeff" [15:52] Ouch my poor Logger :s [15:52] <@Chieftess> hehe, soon, lots of guest will be appearing [15:52] <@Chieftess> Hi Jeff [15:52] *** Guest9157 has 4[morphed] into "Stephane" [15:52] *** Chieftess 4[voices] [15:52] <+FXS_Jeff> Hey folks [15:52] *** Guest53336 (java@=P5X-4.153.EUnet.yu) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:52] *** Chieftess 4[voices] [15:52] *** Guest26278 has 4[morphed] into "nicewolf64" [15:52] <+FXS_Barry> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3° [15:52] ct- how can you take off the enters and all [15:52] *** Guest53336 has 4[morphed] into "hmm" [15:52] Do we need do be registered specifically for the chat? [15:52] <@Chieftess> manually. :) [15:52] to- guests: dont suddenly do that [15:53] a [15:53] Or can we use the forum nickname and password? [15:53] *** hmm (java@=P5X-4.153.EUnet.yu) 4[left] #civfanatics. [15:53] <@Chieftess> You can send a message to #firaxis [15:53] what is your password? ;) [15:53] <@Chieftess> like this: /privmsg #Firaxis I have a question [15:53] howdie all [15:53] *** Sombrero (Hatman@=kcjud397565xjw.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:53] <@Chieftess> hi [15:53] <+FXS_Jeff> PaganYingYang [15:53] never say that word [15:53] <@Chieftess> The Sombrero! [15:53] * +FXS_Jeff is really very bored. [15:53] <@Chieftess> Ole! [15:53] howdy is an evil word [15:53] * +FXS_Jeff smiles at everyone in the room :-) [15:53] :) [15:53] *** Chieftess 4[voices] [15:53] * +FXS_Jeff slaps nobody in particular around with a large trout! [15:53] <@Chieftess> Jeff is having fun. :) [15:53] hehe [15:54] take that man's voice away ;) [15:54] think i turned it off... [15:54] *** Guest91977 (java@=1QL-1.153.EUnet.yu) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:54] <+FXS_Jeff> just getting my barings [15:54] no [15:54] i didnt [15:54] <+FXS_Jeff> bearings [15:54] <+Sombrero> IRC macros are the root of all evil. [15:54] * +FXS_Jeff Laughs-Out-Loud!! [15:54] *** Guest91977 has 4[morphed] into "player1" [15:54] 12some day i should learn irc, but then again, maybe not...LOL [15:55] when does this begin, anyways? [15:55] whn do the questions start? [15:55] <+FXS_Jeff> I'm ready...only have about 60 minutes [15:55] <+FXS_Barry> Ready [15:55] <@theGreyFox> Sorry folks, but I'm leaving for the night. Good bye! [15:55] <+FXS_Barry> Bye Fox [15:55] <@Chieftess> Bye GF [15:55] *** theGreyFox has 4[morphed] into "GF_logging" [15:55] is there any idea of how many people play civ3/ [15:56] <+FXS_Jeff> Over a million [15:56] *** player1 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:56] wow [15:56] *** Warpstorm (Warpstorm@=riqn-krwdcx-tcah2-q0u-757.frbgva.adelphia.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [15:56] <@Chieftess> Hi Warp [15:56] did ptw sell well then? [15:56] <+FXS_Jeff> hey warp [15:56] Hi! [15:56] <+FXS_Barry> Yo warp [15:56] yess, Jeff [15:57] <+FXS_Jeff> yeah...exp packs sell about 1/4 on averge lifetime of the original and we're on track to hit that [15:57] in other words, will there be more expansions? [15:57] I have a question... [15:57] good!!so will have another exp pack,right? :) [15:57] In the MSDG... what is the exact location of your cities and what is the composition of your military, and what techs do you have and/or are you researching? [15:57] <+FXS_Jeff> Check the skies! [15:57] <+Sombrero> I smell a no comment coming! [15:57] i cant smell anything....LOL [15:57] <@Chieftess> Ok, the chat will be moderated in about 3 minutes... [15:57] I second 40j's question ;) [15:58] <+FXS_Barry> We could tell you, but we would have to kill you [15:58] <+FXS_Jeff> yes [15:58] of course, feel free to respond via PM [15:58] 12;4)1 [15:58] <~~~ volunteers to be killed..civ style [15:58] <+FXS_Barry> I was thinking GTA style ;-) [15:58] but i have to warn you, i have respawn on [15:58] and is Sid really playing on your team? [15:58] No hints? [15:58] <+FXS_Jeff> Only if there's space on the map... [15:59] i only play on HUGE maps ;) [15:59] <+FXS_Jeff> Touche [15:59] Is the rumor true that you are currently developing a protoype for "Soren Johnson's Culture" ? [15:59] ct- take the size limmit off of the channel [15:59] <@Chieftess> Stuck - I told you not to spam there [15:59] im sorry, ok [15:59] Civ4? [15:59] *** Sombrero has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] :s [15:59] it was only mideval literature [15:59] *** Chieftess changes 4[topic] to 'Firaxis Chat on now!' [15:59] <+FXS_Jeff> We're trying to corner the japanese dating simulator market...stay tuned! [16:00] oh right [16:00] lol [16:00] <@Chieftess> haha [16:00] hehe [16:00] firaxis guys here [16:00] lol [16:00] 1Laugh 1Out 1Loud [16:00] <+FXS_Barry> Warp Where can I get my hands on that? [16:00] lol [16:00] what u guys say about the art/units/scenarios the community creating ??? [16:00] hehe [16:00] <@Chieftess> Ok, the chat is starting! [16:00] * Stuck_as_a_Mac would like to see that.. [16:00] <@Chieftess> 5The room will now be moderated [16:00] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. * Loaded script 'C:\DS-PRO2\modchat.ini' [16:00] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] +m [16:00] <+FXS_Jeff> mmx: Love it [16:00] -> *Chieftess* test [16:00] <+FXS_Jeff> mmx: we'll be posting more and more on civ3 and who knows where else they'll show up [16:00] *** Rasbelin (rasbelin@=4Jzv-ppeba1.gprs.suomen2g.fi) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:00] <+FXS_Jeff> civ3.com that is [16:00] <@Chieftess> i need to know why the european patches are always so late :( why not the same as US patches [16:01] <+FXS_Jeff> Dimy: I agree the delay is awful and we're working on addressing it for PTW and future games. We reconginze the problem and will fix it. [16:01] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:01] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Nb229-82-11-45.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:01] <@Chieftess> and ask them what do they think about the sudden burst of Mac Modders thanks to the editor [16:01] *** FortyJ_At_Work has 4[morphed] into "FortyJ" [16:02] <@Chieftess> You can send your questions now. I'm not getting any questions [16:02] <+FXS_Jeff> stuck: It's a growing platform and the fact that mac users are buying more games means more support. [16:02] <+FXS_Barry> We'll take all the fan content we can get ;-) [16:02] <@Chieftess> Do they plan to make an new expansion with some badly needed flags (individual upkeep cost for units? [16:02] <@Chieftess> For example.. [16:03] <@Chieftess> bonus against cavalry (for pikes), against air (for aegis cruiser, SAM, etc) [16:03] <@Chieftess> bonus in certains terrains (for mountain troops?) [16:03] <+FXS_Jeff> stephane: Post your ideas and they'll get read [16:04] <@Chieftess> my question is: "Do you have any info on the EU english PTW 1.21f patch release?" [16:04] <+FXS_Barry> You can send them to the suggestions email address that can be found on firaxis.com [16:04] <+FXS_Jeff> sing: Working on it now. Just got the loc'd text files and am submitting the versions on Monday to test. The plan is very soon [16:04] *** Rasbelin (rasbelin@=4Jzv-ppeba1.gprs.suomen2g.fi) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:04] <@Chieftess> Do you follow GOTM(GameOfTheMonth), if so - what do you think about the changes for implementing PTW to singleplay? [16:05] <+FXS_Barry> I'm not sure I understand the question. We are following the GOTMs...it's the second half I don't get [16:06] <@Chieftess> I think he means the GOTM rules.. [16:06] <@Chieftess> balancing multiplay features in PTW to singleplay [16:06] <+FXS_Barry> For example? [16:07] <@Chieftess> 5Remember, if you can't use the private chat, type in: /msg #Firaxis (your quetsion) [16:07] <@Chieftess> just read about it at GOTM:) [16:07] <@Chieftess> Is Firaxis working on another patch for PTW? If so, what fixes/additions/changes can we expect? [16:07] <+FXS_Barry> Okay, I'll look into it further. We have had a lot of contact with Cracker on some of that stuff recently. [16:08] <+FXS_Barry> There will be another patch and it should go into test within the next two weeks [16:08] *** Guest39034 (java@=46pgq-74b1190d.dyn.optonline.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:08] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:08] *** Guest39034 has 4[morphed] into "Grandmaster_of_Vanir" [16:09] <@Chieftess> Is there going to be plans to fix the OOS errors when I am using a Bomber of Fighter? [16:09] <+FXS_Barry> We should be fixing several major issues such as the Privateer/MP bug, some problems with non-era techs, a worker exploit...to name a few [16:09] <+FXS_Barry> To the best of my knowledge, that was fixed in 1.21. I have not seen it since then [16:10] <+FXS_Barry> Is it happening in a fresh 1.21 game (not previous save)? [16:10] <@Chieftess> IT usualy happens on a Multiplayer game [16:11] <+FXS_Barry> I figured that since a single player game can't go OOS... ;-) [16:11] *** Guest21781 (java@=ol0c229g5z3t.arcnxx13.adsl.tele.dk) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:11] <@Chieftess> has anyone hacked the mac editor like the did the regular 1.21 editor? [16:11] <@Chieftess> Everyone, I need more questions [16:11] <+FXS_Barry> Not that I know of. [16:11] *** Guest21781 has 4[morphed] into "isak" [16:11] <+FXS_Jeff> Where's jimmytrick when you need him [16:11] <+FXS_Barry> Hey Isak [16:11] <@Chieftess> Unless chanserv is causing problems again... [16:11] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:12] <@Chieftess> Ok, I've got one that's been asked by the demogame crowd: Does Sid actually play in the Multiplayer Demogame? [16:12] <+FXS_Jeff> Yes! [16:12] <+FXS_Barry> He and Soren have been having long meetings recently...that's what I know. [16:13] <@Chieftess> Ok, if there aren't any more questions, I'll open the chat. [16:13] <+FXS_Jeff> k [16:13] <+FXS_Barry> Yikes! [16:13] *** Grandmaster_of_Vanir has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:13] <@Chieftess> I think chanserv is preventing people from sending private messages [16:13] <@Chieftess> 5The chat room will now be opened! Enjoy the open chat! * Unloaded script 'modchat.ini' [16:13] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] -m [16:14] Who came up with the jaimo unit? Is it part of the feudal japan set? [16:14] ah.. free at last [16:14] thank god [16:14] yippeee [16:14] nice :) [16:14] <@Chieftess> -_- [16:14] hm [16:14] <@Chieftess> Didn't anyone read? :) [16:14] will we have civil war back ? [16:14] <@Chieftess> Use /privmsg :p [16:14] #Firaxis Cannot send to channel: External messages are not allowed. [16:14] <+FXS_Barry> Jaimo is a fictitious character from Armenian legend [16:14] <@Chieftess> weird [16:14] a little explosion of voices i see :) [16:14] are there any wishlist items included in the patch? [16:14] <@Chieftess> TF's gonna have to get a new server... [16:14] yea, will we ever get a civil war back [16:14] when will we get some info on your new project?we know its some 3d thing....:) [16:15] <+FXS_Barry> Just bug fixes for this patch. [16:15] How about events editing in an expansion? I'd pay for that. [16:15] <+FXS_Jeff> E3 is the place to be for those kind of announcements... [16:15] <@Chieftess> hmm, I know what happened - I registered the room [16:15] <@Chieftess> Should've known with chanserv [16:15] could you guys really be making a SimDating program [16:15] i can see it now... [16:15] <+FXS_Barry> Warp...will you pay enough for one year of programmer time? :) [16:15] could firaxis people who answers anything use a distinct color when they answer? so it would be easier to read? [16:15] Go out with Liz, Cleo, Joan and Cathy [16:16] or, perhaps the GhengisFarb Girls :P [16:16] Send me the source and I'll write it for ya ;) [16:16] <+FXS_Jeff> 6I'll try [16:16] thanks :) [16:16] hi barry - sorry I couldn't return the hello :-) [16:16] *** gunning1 (java@68.119.248.Vm237=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:16] <+FXS_Jeff> test [16:16] will the patch be shipped to stores? 1.21 was too big for me to d/l [16:16] * gunning1 says hi [16:16] <+FXS_Jeff> 6test [16:16] no witicisms on this one? [16:16] deep purple [16:16] so we can actually talk this time? [16:16] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Nb229-82-11-45.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:16] How come we don't have to pay for patches? [16:16] <@Chieftess> ok, I unregistered the #firaxis room [16:16] Hi Gunning [16:16] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Nb229-82-11-45.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:17] *** Error: 1Unknown Command (CHATSTART) [16:17] <@Chieftess> 5The room will now be moderated [16:17] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. * Loaded script 'C:\DS-PRO2\modchat.ini' [16:17] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] +m [16:17] <@Chieftess> You can send to #firaxis now [16:17] <@Chieftess> :) [16:17] <@Chieftess> 5The chat room will now be opened! Enjoy the open chat! * Unloaded script 'modchat.ini' [16:17] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] -m [16:17] <@Chieftess> argh [16:17] <+FXS_Jeff> 6We support our productions post release gratis... [16:17] hm. deep purple is maybe a little dark for people who has black background colors... [16:17] :s [16:17] <@Chieftess> I hate chanserv!! [16:17] o [16:17] odd [16:17] Chieftess: please let this stay open :] [16:17] <+FXS_Jeff> 5how's this [16:17] i hate this deal [16:17] oh [16:17] ok [16:17] nice :) [16:17] no comment on the simdating but? [16:17] the room is full [16:17] did we get an answer about civil wars? [16:17] FXS_Barry: thats good [16:17] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Nb229-82-11-45.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:18] was there some kind of mass kick? [16:18] <+FXS_Jeff> 5We're not talking about any unannounced product features...so... [16:18] Do you guys (Jeff and Barry) consider yourself to be l337 civ3 players? Any chance of CFC vs. Firaxis? [16:18] oh ok [16:18] <@Chieftess> Bjor - Join the Multisite Demogame. ;) [16:18] <+FXS_Barry> test [16:18] <+FXS_Jeff> 5There are better...but thank God there are worse. [16:18] i want a pocket civ version,any chance ull make one? [16:19] <+FXS_Jeff> 5We've noodled with the idea [16:19] * @Chieftess notices Barry is beta testing the chatroom. :-D [16:19] what is pocket civ, if i might ask? [16:19] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Those are tough though because if we did it in house we'd have to hire the experience or go out of house [16:19] 7Question: why was it so hard for me to find out that i can run civ3 in different resolutions? i'm lucky Chieftess told me about it... [16:19] your test didn't make it through Bar :-) [16:19] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Love the 3-6 month dev cycle of those types of products though [16:19] <@Chieftess> :eek: Orange [16:20] <+FXS_Barry> I noticed...I am trying Dark Style and I can't figure out how to change my text color yet. [16:20] Chieftess: something wrong with it? [16:20] make it yellow ;) [16:20] if mirc: Ctrl+K [16:20] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Cheetah: We didn't want to have to test/support any problems with those higher rez's. Just a stealth feature for those who want it. [16:20] <@Chieftess> 13,9 Or puke green [16:20] :s [16:20] <@Chieftess> 9,13Or puke green [16:20] <+FXS_Barry> 4Sweet [16:20] g2g all [16:20] *** Stuck_as_a_Mac (DsPro2@=xj19-339-47-33.nyc.rr.com) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:20] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=uY420-05-51-26.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:20] <+FXS_Barry> Thanks [16:20] Chieftess: dont spam :P [16:20] lol [16:20] <+FXS_Barry> How do i make it stick? [16:20] yeah, really CT [16:20] oh ok [16:20] *** NuclearisWinterius has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:20] <@Chieftess> I think it's only in Java [16:20] that you need a script for... [16:21] <+FXS_Jeff> 5More to the point IGS tech support didn't want to [16:21] <@Chieftess> Or make a script [16:21] My poor Logger full of colors from Cheetah :s [16:21] <+FXS_Barry> Curses, foiled again [16:21] any chance you guys can re-enact the Chat - I missed it, you see .... [16:21] <@Chieftess> on :*:INPUT:*: { ... } [16:21] CivGeneral: sorry. but i think youll survive :) [16:21] <@Chieftess> ok, now that #firaxis can accept messages again [16:21] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Ph213-40-23-02.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:21] <@Chieftess> 5The room will now be moderated [16:21] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. * Loaded script 'C:\DS-PRO2\modchat.ini' [16:21] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] +m [16:21] <+FXS_Barry> 4Isak - It shouldn't be hard since we haven't said much [16:22] <+FXS_Jeff> Ok isak: You: Good, insightful question - Me: Babble and non-answer [16:22] <+FXS_Barry> 4I think I started with "Yo" [16:22] <@Chieftess> Ok everyone, start asking your questions. type /msg #firaxis (question) [16:22] <@Chieftess> It should work... [16:23] <@Chieftess> [16:23] i thought we were doing fine with -m... [16:23] <@Chieftess> It gets chaotic. :) [16:23] <@Chieftess> [are you announcing what bugs are being fixed?] [16:23] <@Chieftess> You don't need the brackets [16:23] <+FXS_Barry> 4I mentioned some...others are less important. [16:23] *** Smiles has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:24] <@Chieftess> Is there any plans of including civil war in any patch? [16:24] <+FXS_Barry> 4There's an issue with placed jungles and bonus grassland that we are fixing [16:24] <+FXS_Barry> 4Not at this time [16:25] <@Chieftess> as Warpstorm said before - is there no plan of readding events ? [16:25] <+FXS_Barry> 4A looping problem with auto bombard and a peace treaty [16:25] <+FXS_Barry> 4Pop head hot spot issues [16:25] <+FXS_Jeff> 5chb: A lot of our programmer hours are going to our slate of new products...New big features are most likely beyond the scope of patches right now [16:26] <@Chieftess> will the newest patch eventually hit the stores? [16:26] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Maybe in a gold pack [16:26] <@Chieftess> How do "easter eggs" end up in games? [16:26] <+FXS_Barry> 4If you update via Gamespy, you only have to download the portion of the patch that is new [16:27] <+FXS_Barry> 4The Easter Bunny [16:27] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Bjor: The easiest way is to not tell me...usually it's programmers trying to be cute ;0 [16:27] <+FXS_Jeff> 5case in point - the jaimo [16:27] <@Chieftess> are there anything you can do to make the game run easier? so big scenarios wouldn't take so long time to load and play... [16:28] *** isak has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:28] *** Guest08565 (java@=IT4u752q9j3h.arcnxx13.adsl.tele.dk) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:28] <+FXS_Barry> 4We are continuing to optimize the code, but you could also turn off animations [16:28] *** Guest08565 has 4[morphed] into "isak" [16:28] *** Guest00077 (java@=IkW810c.pppool.de) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:28] <@Chieftess> A lot of request have been made in the forums for new flags in the editor. Any chance we get them in an expansion? [16:29] *** nicewolf64 has quit IRC (Ping Timeout) [16:29] *** Guest87747 (java@63.140.224.8D53=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:29] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Stephane: We don't really talk about unannounced games features so can't really answer that in any detail...other than we know the fan request. [16:29] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3, or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:29] *** UberKruX (krux@=Exagzry-20.dynamic.rpi.edu) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:30] *** Guest87747 (java@63.140.224.8D53=) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:30] <+FXS_Jeff> Uber! [16:30] <+FXS_Barry> 4Yo Ube [16:30] <@Chieftess> i sometimes loop with automated workers getting stuck between ai units, has this been fixed? [16:30] *** Guest35322 (java@63.140.224.pI15=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:31] *** Guest26677 (java@=mpe67v27.elisa.omakaista.fi) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:31] <+FXS_Barry> Soren has made some changes, but there are lots of decisions being made and it's hard to get them all. Keep sending us save games (bugreport@firaxis.com) when you get repeatable ones [16:32] *** Guest35322 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:32] <@Chieftess> Is there anything cool in the oven for civ3 players or just bug fixing? [16:32] <@Chieftess> I think I know the answer to that one. ;) [16:32] *** Guest64709 (java@63.140.224.6I27=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:32] *** Octavian_X (thesim1098@=Oowosc-lq1-24.coin.org) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:32] <+FXS_Jeff> Nuclear: We're always working on new stuff...stay tuned. [16:32] *** keks (keks@=qDbba40.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:32] <@Chieftess> when's the next expansion due.? [16:33] <+FXS_Jeff> 5isak: Nice try.. [16:33] <+FXS_Barry> 4Hehe [16:33] <@Chieftess> Any MSDG related stuff come up? [16:34] <+FXS_Barry> 4It's come up but we can't give away any military secrets ;-) [16:34] <@Chieftess> haha [16:34] <@Chieftess> Not even as friends to the President? [16:35] <+FXS_Barry> 4Not even to Geraldo :) [16:35] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Why is Uber being so quiet.. [16:35] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3... [16:35] <@Chieftess> or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:35] <@Chieftess> in Civ I when you took an enemy capital city a cival war broke loose and the enemy's country was split in two. Why isn't there some kind of reward for capturing an enemy capital city in civ3 and will we ever see something like that? [16:35] <+FXS_Jeff> 5oh...cuz we're modereated again [16:35] <@Chieftess> (dunno if the same happened in civ2, never really played that) [16:35] *** Guest00077 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:35] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Dimy: Maybe... [16:36] <@Chieftess> Do you consider PTW to be perfectly balanced in both multiplay and soloplay? [16:37] *** Guest64709 has 4[morphed] into "gitman" [16:37] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Sing: For me nothing can ever be perfect...but through our own balancing and the feedback of fans we make improvements whenever we can. [16:37] *** Chieftess changes 4[topic] to 'Firaxis Chat on now! - Type /msg #Firaxis (question) to send a question' [16:38] <@Chieftess> have u played civ board game? [16:38] <+FXS_Jeff> 515 minutes warning for me [16:38] <+FXS_Barry> 4I have a copy here at my desk [16:38] <+FXS_Jeff> 15 [16:38] <+FXS_Jeff> 5I haven't had a chance. I'm a fan of www.boardgamegeek.com though and the review have been positive [16:38] <@Chieftess> Also, could the "impassable" flag for terrain be set per unit? For instance, we could say Cavalry cannot go in Jungle, but can go in mountain? (part of Sing's slew of questions..) [16:38] *** Guest67680 (java@134.76.25.Gl809=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:38] <+FXS_Barry> 4It's definitely interesting, but I have gotten spoiled by having the computer handle all the drudgery for me. [16:38] *** Siegmund (CondomBrea@=y7najdxlshi.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:39] *** Guest67680 has 4[morphed] into "WilliamSix" [16:39] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Steph: Good idea. [16:39] <@Chieftess> If some of the requested features cannot go in a new expansion, would you consider allowing some selected modders to add them themselves with some Firaxis support? [16:39] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Steph: Probably not...too legally complicated [16:39] <+FXS_Jeff> 5if it involves source that is [16:40] <@Chieftess> What are some things you would have liked to do for PTW but didn't? [16:40] <+FXS_Jeff> 5bjor: Replays for both single player and MP. Landmarks. Many others. [16:40] <+FXS_Barry> 4Expanded PBEM support [16:41] <@Chieftess> Landmarks would have been great for the Civ3 Demogame. :) [16:41] <@Chieftess> Another question : I suppose you are aware of the munits. There have been a lot of request to maje munit formation of PTW units. When will it be possible? [16:41] *** UberKruX has 4[morphed] into "ModerationIsFASCISM" [16:41] *** ModerationIsFASCISM has 4[morphed] into "UberKruX" [16:41] <@Chieftess> Uber = Eklektikos? :p [16:41] <+FXS_Jeff> 5We fooled around with it but never was happy with the results. For the future though... [16:42] *** UberKruX has 4[morphed] into "UberIsAnApolytonianThankYou" [16:42] *** Spiffor (Spiffor@=owHMknyjvvnvpQ-454-5-2-916.abo.wanadoo.fr) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:42] <+FXS_Jeff> 5You go Uber...fight the power [16:42] *** UberIsAnApolytonianThankYou has 4[morphed] into "HeySpiff" [16:42] <@Chieftess> is it (the Civ board game) any good? [16:42] *** HeySpiff has 4[morphed] into "UberKruX" [16:42] *** Spiffor has 4[morphed] into "HeyUber" [16:42] *** Octavian_X has 4[morphed] into "OctavianwishsUberWouldStop" [16:42] *** HeyUber has 4[morphed] into "Spiffor" [16:42] <@Chieftess> -_- [16:42] <+FXS_Barry> 4It's pretty good, but it could use some rules modifications. You definitely need to have house rules. [16:43] *** OctavianwishsUberWouldStop has 4[morphed] into "Octavian_X" [16:43] <+FXS_Barry> 4Maybe they'll issue a patch [16:43] *** keks has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:43] <+FXS_Barry> 4:) [16:43] <@Chieftess> I get out of Synch errors when i try to bomb in MP (turn based). Also, my friend's game froze when he attacked an enemy sub unknowingly? anything going on with that? [16:43] *** Warpstorm has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:43] *** UberKruX has 4[morphed] into "THANKYOU" [16:43] *** THANKYOU has 4[morphed] into "Guest24031" [16:44] *** Guest24031 has 4[morphed] into "UbeRKruX" [16:44] <+FXS_Barry> 4I thought that was fixed in 1.21, but I will have Pat look into it again. [16:44] <@Chieftess> how much is there left of Mike B's wishlist - just an educated guess ? [16:45] <+FXS_Barry> 4Probably quite a bit...he's an idea man ;-) [16:46] <@Chieftess> What PC games you guys like to play? Or donīt you guys play games out of work? [16:46] <+FXS_Jeff> Nuke: I' [16:46] *** UbeRKruX has 4[morphed] into "JeffJustGamgasmed" [16:47] <+FXS_Barry> 4Warcraft 3, Roller Coaster Tycoon, C&C Generals, Season Ticket Baseball, plus a lot of console games [16:47] <+FXS_Barry> 4That's RCT2 [16:47] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Nuke: I'm a HUGE gamer. My favorite is bf1942 which I'm in a clan..Won our first league match last night. Others right now are Purge and Devistation. [16:47] <@Chieftess> Are there any plans to include a unit involving a doughnut any time soon? [16:48] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Oct: You'll have to speak up...I'm wearing a towel (obscure simpson's reference). [16:48] *** Guest41853 (java@=sDhb59-665-46-02.ks.ok.cox.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:48] <+FXS_Barry> 4Nice [16:48] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3... [16:48] <@Chieftess> or by typing 12/privmsg #Firaxis [question]3 if your nick is not registered. Please refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately. 5If your question hasn't been asked, it may have been already answered or asked. [16:48] *** NuclearisWinterius (crono_thes@=Ph213-40-23-02.tlf.dialuol.com.br) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:48] <+FXS_Jeff> 55 minute warning [16:48] *** Guest41853 has 4[morphed] into "kring" [16:48] <@Chieftess> Do you think some old Civ2 flags that have not been included in Civ3 could go in an expansion? Like the bonus against cavalry of the pike, and the bonus against air of the aegis cruiser? Or the defensive bonus for mountain troops in mountain terrain? [16:48] <+FXS_Jeff> 5 [16:48] *** Guest64145 (java@63.140.224.3V751=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:48] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Steph: Maybe if you ask that question again... [16:48] <+FXS_Barry> 4Asked and answered [16:49] *** Guest64145 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:49] <@Chieftess> where is sadam hiding? [16:49] *** Guest24540 (java@63.140.224.ut294=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:49] <+FXS_Barry> 4With Hoffa at the Meadowlands [16:49] <+FXS_Jeff> 5mmx: 1512 Baghdad Way [16:49] *** Guest24540 has 4[morphed] into "tardbot" [16:49] <+FXS_Jeff> 5but don't tell the us government [16:49] <@Chieftess> So is there an editor yet for the civ board game? Think of the modding community! ;) [16:49] <@Chieftess> [16:45] I have just arrived, so this question has probably been asked. Do you have plans to adress the 1.21 bugs in a future patch, or is the follow-up of Civ3 over ? [16:50] <@Chieftess> :/ [16:50] <+FXS_Barry> 4Spiff: There will be another patch and it should go into test within the next two weeks. [16:50] <+FXS_Barry> 4Bjor: Nice [16:51] <@Chieftess> I guess that gives the beta testers a break. ;) [16:51] *** JeffJustGamgasmed has 4[morphed] into "QuickAskThemMoreQuestions" [16:51] <@Chieftess> in post 1.21 patches, what's the major effort on? netcode or balancing? [16:51] <+FXS_Barry> NO rest for you!!! [16:51] <@Chieftess> haha [16:51] <+FXS_Barry> B4Bug fixes mostly [16:51] <@Chieftess> "HEEHAWW!" (the rented mule) [16:51] *** tardbot has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:51] *** QuickAskThemMoreQuestions has 4[morphed] into "UberWouldBetaIfYouLetHimFrown" [16:52] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Wow...a chat and not a single uber question...guess I'll sleep well tonight! [16:52] <@Chieftess> Does Firaxis offer any internships for college freshmen, Compsci + Psych, focusing on artificial intelligence, over the summer? :COUGH COUGH: [16:52] <+FXS_Barry> 4He asked one [16:52] <@Chieftess> Think again. [16:52] *** UberWouldBetaIfYouLetHimFrown has 4[morphed] into "IAskedThree" [16:52] <@Chieftess> Ok, I need more questions [16:52] *** gunning1 has 4[morphed] into "Ihaventaskedanybutdonthaveany" [16:52] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Maybe...send your resume in [16:52] <+FXS_Barry> 4About OOS errors, I made a note [16:52] *** Ihaventaskedanybutdonthaveany has 4[morphed] into "gunning1|is|watching" [16:53] <@Chieftess> Are there any plans to implement design elements from PtW's "wishlist" ? [16:53] <+FXS_Barry> 4Probably not in a patch [16:53] <+FXS_Jeff> 5Well folks...thanks for coming and for your enthusiasm about the game. Keep your questions comments and suggestions coming...and have a good one. Bye [16:53] *** Bjor (java@63.140.224.lp653=) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:53] *** IAskedThree has 4[morphed] into "That" [16:53] <@Chieftess> Bye Jeff [16:53] *** FXS_Jeff (java@63.140.224.rx169=) 4[left] #civfanatics. [16:54] *** That has 4[morphed] into "ThatWasPrepared" [16:54] <@Chieftess> Sorry, Chieftess asked only the first part of my initial question, without specific examples, and I didn't noticed it... However, the question about the possibility to make and release munit for PTW has not been answered [16:54] <+FXS_Barry> 4I can hang for about ten [16:54] *** ThatWasPrepared has 4[morphed] into "ByeFiraxisLoveTheGame" [16:54] <@Chieftess> ok, I'll open the floodgates [16:54] <@Chieftess> 5The chat room will now be opened! Enjoy the open chat! * Unloaded script 'modchat.ini' [16:54] *** Chieftess sets 4[channelmode] -m [16:54] ahhh [16:54] *** Guest77258 (java@63.140.224.Yr018=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [16:54] *** ByeFiraxisLoveTheGame has 4[morphed] into "UberKruX" [16:54] the flood gates are open!!! [16:54] * Octavian_X eats a doughnut [16:54] YAY!!! [16:54] Is there any chance that naval-built structures (ie, roads) could be connected to land based ones? effectively creating bridges that ships could go under? (for mods etc) [16:54] <@Chieftess>  Is there any chance that naval-built structures (ie, roads) could be connected to land based ones? effectively creating bridges that ships could go under? (for mods etc) [16:54] *** Guest77258 has 4[morphed] into "MikeB_Firaxis" [16:54] *** gunning1|is|watching has 4[morphed] into "gunning1" [16:54] <@Chieftess> Hi Mike [16:54] Hi [16:54] Hi Mike [16:55] *** Chieftess 4[voices] [16:55] hi mike [16:55] finally [16:55] ;) [16:55] heil BREKOWITZ [16:55] * @Chieftess glares at UberKruX 4Ž_Ž [16:55] Beer!!! [16:55] ok... [16:55] one person already left...jeff [16:55] <+FXS_Barry> 4Uber, that's a cool idea, but I don't see it happening with the current engine [16:55] :( [16:55] <+FXS_Barry> 4Beer!!!!! [16:55] * CivGeneral looks at the Chat Logger, My poor Logger is cloged with nick changes [16:55] and now barry's leaving soon [16:55] 2Laugh 2Out 2Loud [16:55] BARRY!!!!! [16:55] <@Chieftess> I made 'bridges' in Civ1. [16:55] ;) [16:55] <@Chieftess> With the pioneer "exploit" [16:55] <@Chieftess> or bug [16:55] Chieftess: you can BUILD them in civ3, they just dont do anything [16:55] <+FXS_Barry> 4Chieftess: That was a bug :) [16:55] *** gitman has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:56] <@Chieftess> Do you know anything about the translation of 1.21f in European versions ? I know it is Infogrames' job, but do you have any information about it ? [16:56] <@Chieftess> I said that [16:56] <@Chieftess> :D [16:56] *** Chieftess changes 4[topic] to 'Firaxis Chat on now!' [16:56] you'd have to be a person who visits often to get the all caps thing [16:56] not really [16:56] <+FXS_Barry> 4Spiff: It should be going into test next week I believe [16:56] it happened twice! as soon as jeff left mike appeared......i think they are the same person......split personality case... [16:56] Thanks :) [16:57] :s [16:57] <@Chieftess> Any chance you could get Sid on? [16:57] mmx: Berkowitz was a psycho. [16:57] <+MikeB_Firaxis> No comment [16:57] <+FXS_Barry> 4That would be a BIG personality difference [16:57] <+FXS_Barry> 4He's out of the office today [16:57] Mike is Jeff after BEER [16:57] The question was asked: Are there any plans to implement design elements from PTW's wishlist; the answer was probably not in a patch. Would you like to elaborate? [16:57] *** chb_ has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [16:57] nope, IP's are different [16:57] sid never seems too be working *cough* [16:58] come on, i can think up more questions... think uber, think. [16:58] someone needs to wash the dishes at the office.... [16:58] The Big Question : are you still tied by a non-disclosure agreement with Inforgames ? [16:58] <+FXS_Barry> 4Uber: He actually works all the time, but he's a nightowl [16:58] Hi MikeB - will you be spending the weekend shortening your wishlist ? :-) Or is that already cut down to size [16:58] <@Chieftess> How about a 12:00AM EDT chat? [16:58] if you were playing as the, let's say, Egyptians, in a MP game... what would you research first? 12;4)1 [16:59] <+FXS_Barry> 4CT: Then you would be cutting into his game playing time [16:59] huh? [16:59] <+MikeB_Firaxis> Actually, Isak, I'm not even working on civ3 anymore.... so I guess the answer is no :) [16:59] fortyj-a civ trivia? [16:59] <@Chieftess> ohh, shouldn't have said MP... ;) [16:59] CT: what? [16:59] For PTW, were there other units packs, like Japan or WWII that were planned, but didn't make it in the expansion? [16:59] <+FXS_Barry> 4Stephane: No, they all made it in [16:59] lol - ok, I suspected that Mike, it's fair enough then :-) [17:00] is there anyway you could make the word "UberKruX" bigger in the bullseye scenario's information? [17:00] so that's why developement is so slow - Barry is programming it now, right? ;-) [17:00] <+MikeB_Firaxis> and Jeff does the art ;) [17:00] isak: burrrrn [17:00] lol [17:00] *** WilliamSix (java@134.76.25.Gl809=) 4[left] #civfanatics. [17:00] <+FXS_Barry> 4I'm a top notch programmer...I know VB and SQL...never mind [17:01] <@Chieftess> Barry has to check for bugs while he's at it. :yeah: [17:01] :lol: [17:01] Firaxis in general: what kind of data structures did you use for Civ3? As a stuent in a "Data Structures and Algorithms" class, i am genuinely interested [17:01] I take it that was an inside joke.... [17:01] <+FXS_Barry> 4I'm too in love with my own code to actually test it completely... [17:01] <@Chieftess> Actually, he gets us beta testers to test it. :D [17:01] still about unit packs, would you like to make new ones in the future, or do you consider the job of modders, here for instance, is enough? [17:02] <+FXS_Barry> 4 Stephane: None are in the works here right now. [17:02] is there any chance the editor will ever support pre-game diplomatic settings? [17:03] <+MikeB_Firaxis> We use all kinds of data structure -- probably everything you have learned about. Most common are arrays and linked lists. Less common are things like trees and hash tables. [17:03] <+FXS_Barry> 4Uber: Yes [17:03] <@Chieftess> I never though you'd say that barry! :) (never testing it completely) [17:03] <+FXS_Barry> 4That's just because I am so in love with my own code. :) [17:03] <@Chieftess> Trees were one of my favorites in programming class. :) [17:03] testing doesn't provide quality - it only provides knowledge of quality :-) [17:03] * Octavian_X just eats another doughnut... [17:03] Beer: do you rely heavily on the STL (or somethign else) or do you code them yourself for maximum efficiency? [17:04] <+FXS_Barry> 4They don't really let me write any code here so that's not a problem. [17:04] <+FXS_Barry> 4Isak: That's good, can I use that? [17:05] don't so it isak! patent it! [17:05] It was not really what I had in mind when asking the question. I wanted to know if you personnally think the units made by modders are enough, and so Firaxis made units are no so needed [17:05] so == do [17:05] yes sure - I thought you already did, Barry :-p [17:05] <+MikeB_Firaxis> It depends on the programmer and the data structure. I personally have never used the stl. Using MFC for the editor I had access to all of their array, list and map structures/classes that I used. [17:05] *** Guest22474 (java@=ITdalg-mcwbpup.dsl.mindspring.com) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:05] Barry : PtW had a cold welcome by most computergaming magazines. Did it have any impact on future develoment plans ? [17:05] *** Guest22474 has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [17:06] Spiff: that happens when the "flagship" code doesn't work out of box :-X [17:06] *** Guest41932 (java@=G4quxq-uvzonqo.dsl.mindspring.com) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:06] *** Guest41932 has 4[morphed] into "kal-el" [17:06] <+FXS_Barry> 4Reviews (good and bad) always have an influence, but fan reaction will make the biggest impact [17:06] kal-el [17:06] <@Chieftess> hi [17:06] all i know is, i played a game with 2 friends straighjt ot the end, nukes and all, with only 4 out of synch errors, and one freeze [17:06] you're getting close. [17:06] *** kal-el has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [17:07] OFL - welcome [17:07] *** Guest27962 (java@=G4quxq-uvzonqo.dsl.mindspring.com) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:07] *** Guest27962 has 4[morphed] into "kal-el" [17:07] @Chieftess, is someone going to make a copy of the chat available? [17:07] <@Chieftess> That's the problem with getting other testers to test that. I want to test it, but when see me log on, I notice they all flee. ;) [17:08] <@Chieftess> kring - yes [17:08] <+FXS_Barry> 4BStephane: I love what the fans are doing [17:08] *** EOD (EOD@=jOjjcw-996-23-158-508.mad.east.verizon.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:08] *** kal-el has 4[morphed] into "Guest92806" [17:08] I am usually available later in the evening/early mornings, after midnight, Chieftess [17:08] Barry: you like GhengisFarb's stuff? ;) [17:08] <@Chieftess> When are the Firaxians free for a MP game? [17:08] GOOD QUESTION [17:08] * UberKruX sharpens his numidian merc pole dealie [17:08] I don't log on to anything Chieftess if I can avoid it - send me an email instead :-) [17:09] <+FXS_Barry> 4Uber: I do, but some of it may be a little bit over the top. [17:09] *** EOD (EOD@=jOjjcw-996-23-158-508.mad.east.verizon.net) 4[left] #civfanatics. [17:09] When designing features for CivIII, then PTW or a possible other expansion, what are you using the most? Reference to similar games (call to power), user's wishlist, or your own experience and feelings? [17:09] <+FXS_Barry> Stephane: Yes ;-) [17:09] <@Chieftess> When are the Firaxians free for a MP game? ;) [17:09] If tin whistles are mad of tin, what do they make foghorns of? [17:10] * UberKruX seconds: When are the Firaxians free for a MP game? ;) [17:10] *** Guest92806 has 4[morphed] into "DyP" [17:10] <+FXS_Barry> 4We are already in the MSDG. [17:10] double your pleasure? [17:10] hey, mr. DyP :-) [17:10] *** m_m_x (xxx@=Xztqi-207-506.red.bezeqint.net) 4[left] #civfanatics. [17:10] What is the big project being worked on at Firaxis right now ? [17:10] hello [17:10] Hi DyP [17:10] I couldn't get in as Kal-el [17:10] MSDG... i dunno why i never got into that [17:10] <@Chieftess> Just gotta hear that "No Comment", huh? [17:10] Can you tell us anything you're legally not allowed to tell us? [17:10] <+MikeB_Firaxis> Didn't Jeff tell you about the Dating Simulator project? [17:11] *** Warpstorm (Warpstorm@=rzqc-zgxfnz-dwrd9-u8d-218.frbgva.adelphia.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:11] thats a quote right there [17:11] Can you tell us anything you're legally not allowed to tell us? [17:11] lol [17:11] <+FXS_Barry> 4Spiff: It's a dating sim that features programmers...it's not very fun right now :( [17:11] Have you already tried a game with Kryten's multifure units? Did you like the feeling of the game? [17:11] MikeB : come on, we all know you'll do something between the Sims and UFO :p [17:11] <+FXS_Barry> 4:) [17:11] LOL [17:11] <+MikeB_Firaxis> Civ Extreme Beach Volleyball [17:12] SID GOES FOR THE SPIKE [17:12] JEFF CRAMS IT DOWN NHIS THROAT [17:12] look at jeff shake it [17:12] Do you Firaxians have anything you would like to discuss specifically? [17:12] yea, do you have any questions for us or anything [17:12] <+FXS_Barry> 4Uber: That's just wrong, but funny :) [17:12] cause, i'm not gonna be here forever [17:12] 2Laugh 2Out 2Loud [17:12] <+MikeB_Firaxis> How many hours per week do you spend playing Civ3? [17:12] if not I have some questions for you. ;) [17:13] 32 [17:13] hey, there's people [17:13] i plan to play for a straight 48 hours starting tonigth at 7:30 [17:13] neato [17:13] with 4 friends [17:13] not too many playing, but way too many thinking about it [17:13] <@Chieftess> hmm, me? Enough to test it. :) [17:13] i play during half of my classes [17:13] So, are there any classic Microprose games that you guys would like to re-do? [17:13] <+FXS_Barry> 4DyP: I know that feeling [17:13] <+MikeB_Firaxis> Don't forget to eat.... [17:13] probably between 10 and 20 - I was worse the first month I had it [17:13] eat? [17:13] BEER + CIV [17:13] Barry: :D [17:13] where is gfood? [17:13] lol - good one Warpstorm [17:13] 2Eat, what's that? [17:14] Not too many this time, but it comes back in cycles. Usually 6 hours a week now, about 40 in high cycles [17:14] <+FXS_Barry> 4Virtual Karts :) [17:14] <+MikeB_Firaxis> Didn't you hear about that Korean guy in an internet cafe? He died because he stayed at his computer playing for something like 72 hours straight... [17:14] <+MikeB_Firaxis> ;) [17:14] *** Eklektikos has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [17:14] he didnt drink beer [17:14] <@Chieftess> Maybe he knew Barry... [17:14] and i'm a comp sci major. the odds of me going without food are so slim [17:14] <+FXS_Barry> 4 That was his problem [17:14] <@Chieftess> A guniea pig... [17:14] Of course, if he was drinking beer for 72 hours straight... [17:14] *** Stephane has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [17:14] obviously no beer, there's no way he could have stayed at the console for 72 hours if he were drinking [17:15] he would have had the best civ game ever [17:15] have to drain the lizard every once in a while [17:15] *** mrmitchell (mrmitchell@=4Knla4-65.cmd.cei.net) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:15] <+FXS_Barry> 4He could have had the best 6 games ever [17:15] he could have glued himself to the console and then started drinking [17:15] 6 games in 72 hours? [17:15] <@Chieftess> That might've been the problem... [17:15] how the hell do you play? [17:15] <+FXS_Barry> 4Yeah, SP [17:15] <@Chieftess> the "lizard" could have... burst... [17:15] SP: huge map, 24 civs. [17:15] woo! [17:15] yikes [17:15] <+FXS_Barry> 4Large Maps for me. [17:15] <@Chieftess> I only play 12 hours max [17:16] <@Chieftess> And that's the demogame [17:16] At a tune, or per game? [17:16] 2Laugh 2Out 2Loud [17:16] MikeB, Barry : do you still regularily lurk on fansites' forums, or do you come there rarely ? [17:16] <@Chieftess> I've found a couple of minor bugs and issues with that [17:16] <@Chieftess> playing the DG [17:16] *** Guest20422 (java@164.109.8.5W487=) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:16] <@Chieftess> BTW, has that tileview exploit been fixed? [17:16] *** Eklektikos (eklektikos@=dQtyy-040-57-56.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com) 4[joined] #civfanatics. [17:16] <+FXS_Barry> 4Spiff: I was just lurking today as a matter of fact [17:16] titleview exploit? [17:16] PBEM load bug :doitnow!: [17:16] tell me so i can exploit it. [17:16] :) [17:16] <+MikeB_Firaxis> I still check them peridocally but not as often now that I'm working on other things. I tend to go to sim dating game fansites now ;) [17:16] :D [17:16] <@Chieftess> Right clicking shows the tile data, even if you don't have a territory map [17:16] Marla's map, slightly modded rules, 24 Civs. I usually end at mid-industrial because of waiting time between turns though [17:16] i'm fond of the worker "road to" bug [17:17] <+FXS_Barry> 4Working on that one [17:17] ? Which one is that Uber? [17:17] if u have a worker [17:17] Some sort of logging of turns for PBEM would be awesome so I can figure out what happened since my last turn [17:17] on a road [17:17] and u hit "road to" [17:17] and click a tile [17:17] it mves to wards it [17:17] and you can reactivate him [17:17] and do it over and over [17:17] until he gets there and roads [17:18] yes [17:18] <@Chieftess> Like the Civ1 pioneer? [17:18] PBEM turn logging is good.. [17:18] Never noticed it before [17:18] even if there won't be any playback [17:18] <+FXS_Barry> 4Kring: MP only [17:18] I would also like to see the AI no longer attack invisible units that its not supposed to be able to see [17:18] Firaxis: is there any way we can get a "log" of things that happened during a MP turn? [17:18] sometimes late game more than 25 things happen per turn [17:18] and i cant see them all [17:18] or any of them :P [17:18] could there be a scrollable window in the domestic advisor or something? [17:18] <@Chieftess> Oh, and the chat area should be scrollable [17:19] like that dealie in SMAC [17:19] with the hyperlinks [17:19] <@Chieftess> I think it should show in the advisor windows, too [17:19] <+FXS_Barry> 4Okay, sorry everyone, but I have to get out of here. See you next time. [17:19] <@Chieftess> Does Firaxis have a local demogame? [17:19] Yes, what UberKrux said [17:19] <@Chieftess> bye [17:19] heh [17:19] ok cya Barry :) [17:19] bye barry [17:19] talk to you later barry [17:20] love the game dude [17:20] Bye Barry [17:20] bye [17:20] cya Barry [17:20] *** FXS_Barry has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited) [17:20] <+MikeB_Firaxis> yeah me too.... got some warcraft3 games to lose... :( [17:20] Now quick, attack the last one! [17:20] <+MikeB_Firaxis> see ya [17:20] <@Chieftess> hehe [17:20] you play pub? [17:20] lol, cya Mike [17:20] :evil: [17:20] bye [17:20] lol - beer b with you mike [17:20] <+MikeB_Firaxis> yeah MikeBeer on bnet [17:20] bueno [17:20] *** MikeB_Firaxis (java@63.140.224.Yr018=) 4[left] #civfanatics