CHAT TOPIC: Play the World 1.14f Patch Chat with Firaxis
DATE: December 6th, 2002 4PM EST
This is the raw chat log w/o any edits.
Many thanks to Jeff Morris (Lead Designer), Barry Caudill (QA Manager), and Soren Johnson (AI Programmer), and Patrick Dawson (Multiplayer Programmer), for coming to the chat!
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*** Play the World 1.14f Patch Chat with Firaxis ***
-- Raw Chat Log: Part 2 of 2
Date: December 6th, 2002
Time: 4 PM EST
Duration: About 2 hours
[17:21] <@Chieftess> <Hygro> When two human players have one resource, is it possible for one to trade his extra of that resource because he can't see the other guy's side of the trading screen?
[17:21] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> SewerStarFish: If you are behind a router, firewall, or anything else that does Network Adress Translation (NAT). Be sure to open all the ports and if that doesn't work, we will try to find more solutions for the next patch
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[17:22] <@theGreyFox> <Warpstorm> Can we get a list of all the new MP keystrokes (such as scrolling the chat log, going to the last message, etc.)?
[17:22] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Hygro: You can trade any resource to a civ which does not currently have that resource, provided you have a valid trade connection
[17:23] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> warp: They should all be either in the manual or the readme.txt.
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[17:23] <@Chieftess> <dantetoo> When will the slow Military Advisor Screen be addressed?
[17:23] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Warpstorm: 'x' will take you to the last chat log message, and what Jeff said, they should be in the manual or readme
[17:24] <+FXS_Barry> 10 minutes and then I
[17:24] <+FXS_Barry> need to take care of my son
[17:24] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> np
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[17:24] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> 10 minute warning here for me too, I still need to get some work done tonight :(
[17:24] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> I can stay till 6..
[17:24] <@theGreyFox> <Narcio> Is there any way to bypass the new auto-timeout feature in multiplayer that causes the host to drop a player automatically after a certain amount of time?
[17:24] <@theGreyFox> <Narcio> Can there be an ignore player feature in the multiplayer chatroom added for when people are spamming or otherwise not wanted to be heard?
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[17:24] <@gonzo_for_civ> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[17:25] <+FXS_Barry> Narcio: both recently answered
[17:25] <@Chieftess> That question was already asked I believe.
[17:25] <@Chieftess> Be sure to read the questions, everyone.
[17:25] <@Chieftess> <CivGeneral> Question for the Fraxis Chat: Are there any plans on releacing any patches? -CivGeneral
[17:25] <@Chieftess> [17:15] <CivGeneral> Question for the Fraxis Chat: Will there be a patch to fix Multiplayer saves that have been saved with V1.07 to correctly load in V1.14? -CivGeneral
[17:25] <@theGreyFox> <Warpstorm> Following on Kal-el's question, how would we setup diplomacy so that it 'sticks' in single play, for example, no World Peace 2
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[17:26] <+FXS_Barry> General: 1.07?
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[17:26] <@Chieftess> 1.07f - Vanilla Civ I assume.
[17:26] <@gonzo_for_civ> i think he means 1.04
[17:26] <@theGreyFox> de moderate now?
[17:26] <@gonzo_for_civ> multiplayer saves..
[17:27] <@Chieftess> I still have a lot more questions
[17:27] <+FXS_Barry> They are compatible according to my testers
[17:27] <@Chieftess> <Pinecone> When is PTW released in the UK?
[17:27] <@theGreyFox> yes, but 2 of them are leaving in 7 minute
[17:27] <@theGreyFox> s
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[17:27] <@Chieftess> ok.
[17:27] <@gonzo_for_civ> well let's get done what we can ;)
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[17:27] <+FXS_Barry> Let Jeff handle the rush:)
[17:27] <@Chieftess> hehe
[17:27] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> pine: They have the software, the rest is up the them....thx
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[17:27] <Trip`> :D
[17:27] <Trip`> I win
[17:27] <@theGreyFox> ah!!!
[17:28] <Trip`> thanks guys
[17:28] <@Chieftess> <USC_Lucky> Are you really satisfied with Infogrames´ job as distibutor, localizer, etc??? Especially now with PtW and all the problems that keep popping up and lower the gaming fun?
[17:28] <@theGreyFox> I will be AFK a little
[17:28] <@gonzo_for_civ> @CT...go ahead and send the full chat log to me afterwise
[17:28] <Hygro> wait a sec..
[17:28] <@Chieftess> tgf - wait
[17:28] <@gonzo_for_civ> afterwards*
[17:28] <bclg2> wow
[17:28] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Lucky: All publishers have their strengths and weaknesses.
[17:28] <bclg2> we can speak
[17:28] <CapTVK> chieftess, my question?
[17:28] <USC_Lucky> just wanted to type that
[17:28] <@Chieftess> I accidently left then came back
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[17:28] <@Chieftess> I'll reask them
[17:28] <CrONoS_QC> is there anything new coming from you guy: game, extension???
[17:28] <Falcon02_Reading> CT want my log?
[17:28] <@Chieftess> <crousto> is it true that some firaxians take part in Apolyton's PtW DemoGame? S.Johnson is in the GatheringStorm's players list
[17:28] <@Chieftess> sure
[17:28] <@Chieftess> thanks
[17:28] <Hygro> You've unleashed the floodgates, was this one purpose?
[17:29] <CivGeneral> The patch question. I ment v1.04f. I lost track of the patches I have
[17:29] <Trip`> mods and Firaxians should use colored text
[17:29] <animaster> thanks for clearing up most of our despair :)
[17:29] <alva848> yes
[17:29] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Crousto: I dont take part in it, but I can't speak for other Firaxians
[17:29] <Falcon02_Reading> want me to E-mail now or later?
[17:29] <XPenguin> uhoh
[17:29] <@Chieftess> 12 <animaster> Have there been a change in the terrain engine? (seem to fewer rivers)
[17:29] <+FXS_Barry> General: They are compatible in my experience
[17:29] <@gonzo_for_civ> This chat is open to asking questions to the firaxians now. DO NOT use this time to chat with your friends about what you ate last night ;)
[17:29] <@Chieftess> yes
[17:29] <alva848> soren is
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[17:29] <CrONoS_QC> is there anything new coming from you guy: game, extension???++
[17:29] <XPenguin> anyway, hello firaxisns. Its me, the guy who built a winbox because of Civ
[17:29] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Animaster: no
[17:29] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> anim: Didn't want to mess with that system too much. Only to fix bugs.,
[17:29] <flash9286> so what did you all eat last night:)
[17:29] <astrologix> sorry if that has been already asked : when loading a saved PBEM game the level of the game is changed at an unexpected maner, for exemple from Monarch to Regent. Why ?
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[17:29] * @theGreyFox : don't ask them about future products, they won't answer
[17:29] <Carletti> cool
[17:30] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> astro: Sounds like a bug.
[17:30] <Hygro> hey Firaxians, who's cooler, us Fanatics or the people at apolytan?
[17:30] <Narcio> In multiplayer, I find in the new patch when my many auto-settlers (100 and plus) are moving, I will be dropped by the host as it assumes I have disconnected. In the previous patch the game just lagged for a few minutes and once the settlers were done, it recovered and continued. Any way around this other then turning the auto-settlers off?
[17:30] <BigFurryMonster> Q: any plans to implement Civil War (splitting off of a part of a Civ), like in Civ II ?
[17:30] <bclg2> yeh
[17:30] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> big: Not currently.
[17:30] <@Chieftess> <Davros> Who or what is the "Jaimo" easter egg unit supposed to be? And why doesn't it show until 2004?
[17:30] * alva848 thinks unmoderated isn't going to work :)
[17:30] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Astro: that is a bug, it is on 'the list'
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[17:30] <CapTVK> What's your view on Freeciv?
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[17:30] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Davros: Me...
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[17:30] <Davros> Oh cool
[17:30] <Trip`> poor Jeff, so many questions :P
[17:30] <CivGeneral> lol
[17:30] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> I'll cope
[17:30] <BigFurryMonster> Another Q: Who was in charge of the standard City Name Lists? I would like to suggest some improvement there.
[17:30] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> hello?
[17:30] <@Chieftess> 4 <ColdFever> Patrick_Dawson: "There is no way for gameSpy arcade to know what version you are running". But if a player starts a session the game generates a name and in this moment the engine could prefix it automatically with a version number (btw: the same approach could be used for player names...)
[17:30] <alva848> yeah, but we won't lol
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[17:31] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> oh its open
[17:31] <alexxpl> why cant you done soemthing with firewalls There is huge plenty of problems
[17:31] <@gonzo_for_civ> Sorry if this has been asked already >_< but are there ANY plans to give us an editor w/diplo editing..perhaps a patch?
[17:31] <Trip`> gonzo: wishlist
[17:31] <Trip`> :)
[17:31] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alex: We agree. A lot of enegry is being spent on that particular problem.
[17:31] <XPenguin> are any more unit sets coming out anytime soon? or mabey a Diplo editor?
[17:31] <alexxpl> and many ppl is behind firewall.. please improve this
[17:31] <astrologix> thanks :-)
[17:31] <@Chieftess> <Narcio> In multiplayer, I find in the new patch when my many auto-settlers (300 or so) are moving, I will be dropped by the host as it assumes I have disconnected. In the previous patch the game just lagged for a few minutes and once the settlers were done, it recovered and continued. Any way around this other then turning the auto-settlers off?
[17:31] <Warpstorm> Following on Kal-el's question, how would we setup diplomacy so that it 'sticks' in single play, for example, no World Peace 2
[17:31] <@gonzo_for_civ> Penguin: wish list
[17:31] <Laeque> I'm not sure I'm coping well with this :)
[17:31] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> xPenguin: Depends on how wel lthe first one does.
[17:31] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> FX: Please can Firaxis add more zoom modes to the game, like the editor has?
[17:31] <Hygro> thats what everyone wants Firaxis: diplo editing... listen to the fans ^^
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[17:31] <BigFurryMonster> Another Q: Who was in charge of the standard City Name Lists? I would like to suggest some improvement there.
[17:31] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> ColdFever: I dont think you understand. If you run arcade, PTW is not running at all, arcade is an external app that has no idea Civ3 is even on your machine
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[17:32] <@gonzo_for_civ> lets go for a few mins
[17:32] <@Chieftess> <Narcio> In multiplayer, I find in the new patch when my many auto-settlers (300 or so) are moving, I will be dropped by the host as it assumes I have disconnected. In the previous patch the game just lagged for a few minutes and once the settlers were done, it recovered and continued. Any way around this other then turning the auto-settlers off?
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[17:32] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Admiral: Hard to because sprites scale poorly. You can run the game at a higher resolution than 1024 which opens up a lot of speace.
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[17:32] <@Chieftess> <stillwater> how much space is left (technically, organisationally) to improve the AI of Civ3/PTW
[17:32] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> ColdFever (continued): Arcade cannot know your version until it runs the game, which happens *after* the staging process
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[17:33] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Stillwater: Hard to say. Soren's on another project to I wouldn't expect much.
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[17:33] <@gonzo_for_civ> @CT..please resend the directions for users to ask questions ;)
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[17:33] <@Chieftess> <CivGeneral> Are there any fixes that will reduce the Lag with users using a 56K Modem?
[17:33] <@Chieftess> 3Announcement: If you have a question, please ask one of the chat ops in private chat. We will relay the questions to the Firaxians. To chat with one of the ops, double-click their name in the user window, or type 12/privmsg [chat-op name] [question]3. Please try to refrain from asking questions to the Firaxians privately.
[17:33] <@theGreyFox> but what if you connect to a MP game within Civ3, PTW?
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[17:34] <+FXS_Barry> Grey: t would have to be a universal solution
[17:34] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> CivGeneral: 1.14 adressed many of those issues, but we are always looking to enhance the speed
[17:34] <@Chieftess> <BigFurryMonster> Q: Who was in charge of the standard City Name Lists? I would like to suggest some improvement there.
[17:34] <@Chieftess> [17:32] <BigFurryMonster> Q: why does the game connect to other players in 'turn based mode' ?
[17:34] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Bigfurry: Me for the new civs. send them along to jmorris@firaxis.com.
[17:35] <@Chieftess> <Carletti> Question: Why is the game so poor on my great machine. Thanks.
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[17:35] <@theGreyFox> Could you release the sourcecode of the editor? Like with a GNU license? Many of the Fans stuff might be added that way, free for you...
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[17:35] <+FXS_Barry> Okay, I need to get some medicine for my poor son. I'm outa here. Thanks to everyone
[17:35] <@Chieftess> <Laeque> I wanna change my screen name on the ingame browser. Actually my roommate doesn't like firing up under the name I chose.
[17:36] <@Chieftess> bye
[17:36] <@gonzo_for_civ> see ya barry
[17:36] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> cya barry
[17:36] <@gonzo_for_civ> thank you
[17:36] <@Chieftess> thank you
[17:36] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> you wanna blow to pat please do..
[17:36] <@theGreyFox> cya, hope he will be better
[17:36] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> take care Barry
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[17:36] <@theGreyFox> did you see my Q about the editor?
[17:36] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> I had aphone call, sorry I was away for a minute or two there
[17:36] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Laeq: you can do that by selecting your name on the MP Lobby.
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[17:36] <@Chieftess> <Hygro> How soon can I expect the hotseat bug to be fixed (the one that makes everything on defualt settings)
[17:37] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Click on your name itself on the ingame browser to change your name
[17:37] <@gonzo_for_civ> The chat is now going to be unmodded. PLEASE do NOT free chat and DO NOT bombard the firaxians with questions. If they are answering a few questions then WAIT YOUR TURN. Thank you.
[17:37] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Hygro: Next patch.
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[17:37] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Hygro: I hope to have it fixed by the next patch
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[17:37] <alexxpl> when next patch will be out?
[17:37] <Trip`> I wanted to say bye to Barry :(
[17:37] <@Chieftess> <AdmiralPJasynchronous> but why show the units so small, we can't see the details inthem,my eyes are bad enough as it is :P i've written sprite scalers , just use sampled sprite reduction
[17:37] <@theGreyFox> [23:32] <theGreyFox> Could you release the sourcecode of the editor? Like with a GNU license? Many of the Fans stuff might be added that way, free for you...
[17:37] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> We'll announce when we're close
[17:37] <CivGeneral> :)
[17:37] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Alex: I don't know our current timeline as of now
[17:37] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Greyfox: I doubt it
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[17:37] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> admiral: Gotcha.
[17:38] <alexxpl> more less.. weeks? moth?
[17:38] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> We won't guess
[17:38] <@theGreyFox> when you decide not to add anything more, maybe?
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[17:38] <EasilyConfused> oops
[17:38] <XPenguin> im speaking for the mac community, i know its not you guys, but... When is the Mac editor comming out?
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[17:38] <flash9286> are any of you working on other games
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[17:38] <@gonzo_for_civ> <Hygro> I know PtW is fundamentally a PC game (with direct X or wahtever), but is there a possibility it might come out for the Mac. Out of 4 People including me of my friends that want PtW, two of us use Macs and are not going to switch.
[17:38] <Trip`> flash: if they could say, they would have ;)
[17:38] <Carletti> Question: Are you going to add in the next patch the Gay Civ?
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[17:38] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> Flash: I am working on PTW exclusively and will continue to do so
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[17:38] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> gonzo: I gave a source drop to the mac guys last week.
[17:39] <Hygro> YAY!
[17:39] <Hygro> (that's good right?)
[17:39] <Carletti> Are you going to add the G A Y civ in the next patch?
[17:39] <Guest51764> will the slow scroll on the military advisor screen be fixed in the next patch?
[17:39] <Sirosis> Would it be possible to have a popup when discovering tech?
[17:39] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> 12 year olf alert
[17:39] <CivGeneral> Is there going to be a freature that will let us modify the Railroad movement?
[17:39] <Trip`> 12?
[17:39] <Trip`> :P
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[17:39] <Trip`> or 10
[17:39] <@Chieftess> Carletti, please refrain from asking those kind of questions!
[17:39] <EC_Away> I'm hoping Carletti is refering to an acronym...
[17:39] <punkbass> No reason to go badmouthing 12-year0olds here
[17:39] <@gonzo_for_civ> Do not free chat!
[17:40] <Trip`> LoL
[17:40] <Carletti> Ok, just curiositty
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[17:40] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> Will you make any more Science fiction alpha centauri like games?
[17:40] <kalel> don't free chat until all Firaxians are gone
[17:40] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> admiral: Possibly.
[17:40] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> or is that too MOO3 like?
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[17:40] <XPenguin> do you ever plan on making an editor for saves, that would leave a mark of any sort, to edit saves?
[17:40] <+Patrick_Dawson_Firaxis> I have to take off guys, need to finish up some stuff, thank you all for having me :)
[17:40] <XPenguin> also: can we expect something like ToT for Civ3?
[17:40] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> xpenguin: Might be a cheaters dream but an interesting idea
[17:40] <Sirosis> Would it be possible to have a popup when discovering tech?
[17:40] <Trip`> see ya Pat
[17:40] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> cool, sci fi's good.. if done well
[17:40] <kring> 2 Any plans for the HoF issue?
[17:40] <Trip`> thanks
[17:40] <alva848> bye pat :)
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[17:40] <@theGreyFox> ItS LIEK WE be LIEK yeY! LIEK IOMGOMGOMG I'm 12, liek teh BART fråm SImPSSSONS!½!!! OMG LOLOLOLOL
[17:41] <@Chieftess> not again...
[17:41] <@Chieftess> :rolleyes:
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[17:41] <CivGeneral> >_<
[17:41] <Trip`> LoL
[17:41] <Trip`> ;)
[17:41] <stillwater> would you firaxis guys appreciate civ3 in a kind of a "massive multiplayer game" mode?
[17:41] <XPenguin> hey.. dont dis the 12 year olds
[17:41] <alexxpl> could you do something with teh multiplayer lobby? I mean - ability to see who is present, add more servers (eg European)
[17:41] <Trip`> t3h b3st
[17:41] <@Chieftess> You scared the Firaxians!
[17:41] <CivGeneral> lol
[17:41] <punkbass> l33t :)
[17:41] <Falcon02_Reading> Have you guys ever thought about integrating Futureistic Techs such as CTP had into Civ III?
[17:41] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alex: we're spending a lot of time looking at the MP setup screens.
[17:41] <@gonzo_for_civ> Do not bombard the firaxians with questions. Let them answer first!
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[17:41] <Fookison> Q: Why don't the scenario scores register in the hall of fame?
[17:41] <@gonzo_for_civ> firaxian*
[17:41] <XPenguin> every one, stop for a minuet
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[17:42] <@Chieftess> Let Jeff answer.
[17:42] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> fook: Not sure, though probably it's way to easy to get a high score with a specially hand crafted scenario with that as a goal. Mike Breitkreutz would know.
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[17:42] <alexxpl> and what about MP servers?? will there be european ptw server???
[17:43] <Warpstorm> You could put the name of the scenario or a modded flag so that people would know the difference
[17:43] <Warpstorm> HOF
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[17:43] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alex: More a gamespy question since we use their servers..I don't know.
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[17:43] <Hygro> Gosu Chobo ^_^ This Mac news ROCKS! Go Firaxis! Go Firaxis!
[17:43] <Falcon02_Reading> Have you guys ever thought about integrating Futureistic Techs such as CTP had into Civ III?
[17:43] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Hygro: Go Infogrames, they green-lit it.
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[17:44] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> falcon: Our focus is on history.
[17:44] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> At least in this product.
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[17:44] <Falcon02_Reading> okay, thanks
[17:44] <CapTVK> 2 questions: Will we see a Linux version of Civ3 and What's your current view on Freeciv?
[17:44] <Anrky> it would be good if we could work on a little more future
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[17:44] <Hygro> yeah, sorta I guess. But you guys make the mgaes, they make you release them early ;-S
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[17:44] <Hygro> games*
[17:45] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Cap: Dunno. Up to the publisher. Freeciv is a fine game.
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[17:45] <arkammler> Jeff id you change the map size to 362 by 362 for the max in PTW?
[17:45] <Laeque> I would like to see my civ name show up in the HoF instead of the template civ I picked. Anyway to change that? Or is that not desirable?
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[17:45] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ark: I don't think so.
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[17:45] <stillwater> Which current game is your "inspiration" for developing new games, jeff?
[17:46] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Laeq: You mean if you change it? It does sort by civ achieved the victory with.
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[17:46] <sebsage> nickserv broken?
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[17:46] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Still: I'm a battlefield 1942 addict, but the other project I'm working on is pretty different.
[17:46] <Laeque> Yeah, but I wanna see the Boneheads at the top :)
[17:46] <Fookison> Just wanted to say that Rommel 281 and I love the new play the world multiplayer. It rocks! A bit slow though even though we have fast computers and good connections (low ping)
[17:46] <@gonzo_for_civ> hey...you're supposed to be banned
[17:46] <Warpstorm> Tease
[17:46] <sebsage> i was?
[17:46] <Fionn696_> yeah
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[17:46] <@gonzo_for_civ> 5B 1e 5 R 1ight 5B 1ack
[17:46] <@gonzo_for_civ> 5B 1e 5 R 1ight 5B 1ack
[17:46] <@gonzo_for_civ> 5B 1e 5 R 1ight 5B 1ack
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[17:46] <anarchywrksbest> I didnt buy PTW, but the last chat persuaded me to start playing Civ3 again! I now take great pleasure in kicking Germany's ass EVERY game as the British! Thankyou for convinving me! :D
[17:47] <@Chieftess> Guess I had the notation wrong..
[17:47] <@theGreyFox> is Visual .Net = Visual C++ 7??
[17:47] <@Chieftess> after the netsplit.
[17:47] <@gonzo_for_civ> @ct..how do i stop the timers
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[17:47] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> grey: That's how I understand it.
[17:47] <@Chieftess> type /timers off
[17:47] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> Would firaxis be interested in working with me on my game Mantra? or are they having a siesta after civ3?
[17:47] <CivGeneral> Q: Are there plans to let people edit the road and/or railroad movement cost?
[17:47] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Civ: Not currently.
[17:47] <arkammler> Jeff, could you increase the number of cities in the game to refelt the map change?
[17:48] <Hygro> If there's ever going to be another expansion, you must make barbarians similiar to like they were in Civ2, as Rebels and religious fanatics, and people that use their boats.
[17:48] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ark: I believe that's configurable in the editor.
[17:48] <arkammler> how
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[17:48] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Ark: The max city cap.
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[17:48] <Warpstorm> Jeff, is there a reasonable chance for Yet Another Civ3 Expansion?
[17:48] <arkammler> m
[17:49] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Warp: If this one does well.
[17:49] <@theGreyFox> warp: if this does well
[17:49] <rommel281> is there any plans to add new civs? in the future
[17:49] <Hygro> Civ3: Attack of the Barbarians!
[17:49] <Warpstorm> let's all hope it does well then
[17:49] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> rom: nothing to announce.
[17:49] <arkammler> What is the city max in the game now?
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[17:49] <flash9286> In turnless mode wars are hard to fight and often lag the game will the next patch fix this?
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[17:49] <alva848> is it doing well so far?? :)
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[17:49] <@theGreyFox> Civ3: Return of the Civil War
[17:49] <@gonzo_for_civ> @CT...send me the chat log
[17:49] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ark: 512?
[17:49] <Hygro> Civ3: Barbarians use boats!
[17:49] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alva: Yes.
[17:49] <alva848> :b
[17:49] <@Chieftess> ok
[17:49] <Guest51764> Will the slow scroll in the military advisor screen be fixed?
[17:49] <@theGreyFox> Hygro: they don't load units in them
[17:49] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Guest: yes.
[17:49] <BigFurryMonster> Q: why does the game connect to other players in 'turn based mode' ?
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[17:50] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> big: not sure what you mean?
[17:50] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> .
[17:50] <Hygro> yeah I know it bothers me a bit
[17:50] <player1> Any plans after PtW?
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[17:50] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> player1: loads.
[17:50] <player1> For example?
[17:50] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> WILL FIRAXIS make more turnless type games or game modes?
[17:50] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> admiral: Stay tuned.
[17:50] <Fookison> Q: Where do we get the same level of info. on the original civs as we do on the PTW crew?
[17:50] <Hygro> hey, are their barbarians in turnless mode?
[17:51] <alexxpl> I got suggestion about war in sim moves and turnless mode - THERE SHOULD BE ABILITY TO SWICH MODES TO TURN BASED when you go to war.. because war shouldn't be won by one who clicks mouse faster
[17:51] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> hehe
[17:51] <BigFurryMonster> Jeff: I sometimes get 'waiting for player 2' popup while in turn based mode...
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[17:51] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> hygro: yes.
[17:51] <arkammler> I got a game in PTW with 512 cities and I have a lot terriory that can be used for city building.
[17:51] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alex: Good idewa.
[17:51] <Hygro> Well, you guys made the right choice :-)
[17:51] <Trip`> alexxpl: that's why you play turn based ;)
[17:51] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> 10 minute warning
[17:51] <CivGeneral> I am not sure if this hase been asked already. Q: Who had decided to have Elvis return to PTW? :)
[17:51] <@gonzo_for_civ> 3Announcement: 10 minutes until chat ends
[17:51] <flash9286> What causes the lag when your fighting a war in turnless mode
[17:52] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Civ: Mike Breitkreutz
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[17:52] <Hygro> gonza you went all christmassy
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[17:52] <BigFurryMonster> Jeff: I think that is strange, since it is my turn, not theirs
[17:52] <alexxpl> I played Sim moves and I got confused when hot war started... I was pity I coudnt start it with turn based.. I could won that case
[17:52] <kguut> Any plan to add popups for production completion, initiation of wonder constructions, and tech completion in multiplayer?
[17:52] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> flash: usually the connection speed and machine speed of one of the players in your game.
[17:52] * CivGeneral wants to thank Mike Breitkreutz for bringing back Elivs inj PTW :) :D
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[17:52] <CivGeneral> *in
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[17:53] <Hygro> Right now Play the World is 300 steps from my house... why am I here instead of running over and installing it?
[17:53] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> kguut: Not currently. We wanted to streamline the process, though 'prefing' them might be a good middleground
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[17:53] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> Any suggestions for people like me looking for coding jobs in the games business? Is it an expanding industry?
[17:53] <Mercade> Jeff: At present I do *not* have the "less multiplayer pop-ups", but I get neither the pop-ups about tech completion, nor the message in the chat log.
[17:53] <Hygro> (that last one was for Mr. Morris ;-)
[17:53] <@gonzo_for_civ> @Hygro..please don't ask questions NO one can answer ;)
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[17:53] <Hygro> sorry
[17:53] <arkammler> Jeff, e-mail me @ arkammler@yahoo.com to show you a map of what I mean.
[17:53] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> admiral: Mod existing games, teach yourself DirectX, be persistent.
[17:53] <stillwater> jeff, are you in contact with sid? If so, what are his plans?
[17:54] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> mercade: Perhaps a bug. Email me the details at jmorris@firaxis.com
[17:54] <oglsmm> two words: linux port!
[17:54] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> still: Nothing to announce.
[17:54] <Warpstorm> Should I send another resume?
[17:54] <Fionn696_> is there a way to turn off the music but keep the sound effects on in PTW
[17:54] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> on that note, I'll be uploading my Admirals Genesis civ3 mod to apolyton/civfanatics shortly :>
[17:54] <@gonzo_for_civ> hey jeff. Any chance you could get Sid to come to a chat in the future. It'd be the talk of the town :)
[17:54] <Fookison> Any info available to set up voice chat? We are having trouble
[17:54] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Warp: Never hurts to be persistent.
[17:54] <Trip`> yes, get Sid :D
[17:54] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> gonzo: Maybe.
[17:54] <Hygro> Are other advisors based on people you know (like the Science one looking like Sid)?
[17:54] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> 12 more resources, 30 new units, etc
[17:54] <alva848> lol
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[17:55] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Hygro: Just people who interested the artist who did them.
[17:55] <@gonzo_for_civ> don't let him go to a poly chat though...this is between me and you and these 50 or so people ;)
[17:55] <@Chieftess> 65. :)
[17:55] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> gotcha
[17:55] <Hygro> i see
[17:55] <@Chieftess> There were 90 at the most.
[17:55] <Hygro> thata a lot
[17:55] <@gonzo_for_civ> thanks jeff :)
[17:55] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ;)
[17:55] <@Chieftess> Just be sure to tell us, since there's bound to be imposters...
[17:55] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> Why don't u come to the London EXPO computer developer show, next year, firaxis?
[17:56] <stillwater> do you think, life is just a "game", jeff?
[17:56] <oglsmm> is there any chance of a linux port ever?
[17:56] <anarchywrksbest> La la la
[17:56] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> it was fun this year
[17:56] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Admiral: I could use another junket1
[17:56] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ogl: Infogrames call.
[17:56] <alexxpl> Jeff remeber about this switching modes idea.. I hope you will implement it :)
[17:56] <JRKworks> What about a chance to have a commodore port?
[17:56] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> alex: You bet.
[17:56] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> never leave home without a junket :P
[17:56] <JRKworks> :)
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[17:57] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ark: right after the apple ][ version. Now shipping on 1000 5 1/4 floppies.
[17:57] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> If I let sid sleep with my girlfriend, will he give me a job?
[17:57] <flash9286> lol
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[17:57] <Trip`> LoL
[17:57] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> admiral: He's married.
[17:57] <Laeque> hehe
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[17:57] <oglsmm> do you ever feel unappreciated, you bring out a game i.e. PTW that you spent so long on, and all you hear is complaints about bugs?
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[17:57] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> oh.. i forgot
[17:57] <alexxpl> hey! let me sleep - I will give u a job :)
[17:57] <Trip`> marriage is no problem ;)
[17:58] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> he's reserached monotheism then
[17:58] <anarchywrksbest> QUESTION: If I offer to sleep with Sid will he give ME a job? :p
[17:58] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> ogl: Not really. These are amazingly complicated things to bring to market.
[17:58] <Trip`> LoL
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[17:58] <Trip`> this is getting ugly
[17:58] <Hygro> I appreciate you guys... seeing as I won't have Played trhe World before 1.14
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[17:58] * CivGeneral noticed the room is starting to get a little craysy
[17:58] <arkammler> See you later.
[17:58] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> your a nobody alex :P
[17:58] <Hygro> bye
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[17:58] <flash9286> where did you all go to college at
[17:58] <Topher> So, I arrived way late. Was at work are there any easter eggs that were revealed that were unkown until now?
[17:58] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Well guys...guess that's my cue...sorry about being late..you all have my email (jmorris@firaxis.com) so feel free to bring any issues to my attention you think might be getting ignored
[17:58] <player1> QUESTION: What's about that bug with Military Advisor sceen beeing so SLOW?
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[17:58] <+Jeff_Morris_FIRAXIS> Have a good one.
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[17:59] <Trip`> thanks for coming Jeff
[17:59] <Trip`> :)
[17:59] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> cheerio jeff, nice chatting
[17:59] <Hygro> BAI BAI!
[17:59] <punkbass> cya
[17:59] <oglsmm> you too
[17:59] <@gonzo_for_civ> see ya jeff
[17:59] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> great game
[17:59] <Hygro> thanks a lot man!
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[17:59] <Laeque> Thanks Jeff.
[17:59] <@gonzo_for_civ> I'll e-mail you about sid ;)
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[17:59] <alexxpl> do widzenia Jeff!
[17:59] <CivGeneral> Bye Jeff
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[17:59] <ColdFever> Thanks for the chat and a fine game. Good Night from Germany (and have a Merry Christmas)
[17:59] <Topher> thanks
[17:59] <AEO> 5 bye
[17:59] <Trip`> I was first :D
[17:59] <Hygro> Can I be the next advisor head?
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[17:59] <kring> 11,9,3 Merry Christmas ColdFever
[17:59] * CivGeneral noticed AWB just came into the room
[17:59] <Yuki288> buy buy
[17:59] <Trip`> party :P
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[17:59] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> have firaxis burnt now then?
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[17:59] <Trip`> 4Boogy time!
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[17:59] <Hygro> 5,13,10,1ok time to get PtW
[17:59] <anarchywrksbest> Damn I missed it all!
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[18:00] * AdmiralPJasynchronous shakes his booty to the middle ages party music
[18:00] <anarchywrksbest> I was at a Rugby match :D
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[18:00] <Hygro> so I can play CG3 succession game (2 open slots, btw)
[18:00] <kring> who won?
[18:00] <alexxpl> I hope text from this chat will be published somewhere???
[18:00] <CivGeneral> There are always the Chat Logs AWB ;)
[18:00] <Trip`> yes alexxpl
[18:00] <Laeque> I need to stretch my legs now...
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[18:00] <Hygro> ok BAI BAI
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[18:00] <ShredZ> cya :)
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[18:00] <@gonzo_for_civ> Falcon..please send a complete log to gonzo@civfanatics.com
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[18:01] <Trip`> I'm going to go play GoldenEye :D
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[18:01] <alexxpl> do you know where and whet text will be published?
[18:01] <Trip`> so I'll be back after while
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[18:01] <@gonzo_for_civ> I will be making up a Q&A
[18:01] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> maybe it'll be on apolyton too?
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[18:01] <@gonzo_for_civ> and we'll post a slightly cleaned up log
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[18:01] <rEaL_skil> hey guys
[18:01] <kring> thank you gonzo
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[18:01] <Akiela> anyone know how to get direct ip connection to work in PTW?
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[18:02] <{{[[DaN]]}}> hi
[18:02] <kring> you need the host's ip address
[18:02] <rEaL_skil> im not sure but im sure i could find out if i tried
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[18:02] <Falcon02_Reading> Gonzo... can I upload it to you?
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[18:02] <FortyJ> i'm out.... cya later everyone
[18:02] <@gonzo_for_civ> through DCC
[18:02] <Falcon02_Reading> yeah
[18:02] <Laeque> grr
[18:02] <Falcon02_Reading> see ya 40
[18:02] <Akiela> just click on game to join and click direct ip right?
[18:03] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> there is no directip acording to firaxis.. yet
[18:03] <rEaL_skil> whats is you favorite terrain modification?
[18:03] <AdmiralPJasynchronous> they're workin onit
[18:03] <Laeque> *wave*
[18:03] <FortyJ> all Fanatikans please vote in this confirmation poll -> http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38546
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[18:03] <Warpstorm> Warpstorm's :)
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